1 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:24,690 you 2 00:00:30,850 --> 00:00:28,839 archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's 3 00:00:34,030 --> 00:00:30,860 just another night for Supernatural 4 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:34,040 girls real stories real answers to 5 00:00:38,740 --> 00:00:36,410 life's biggest supernatural mysteries 6 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:38,750 and now for another exciting interview 7 00:00:44,350 --> 00:00:41,210 with paranormal experts in this world 8 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:44,360 and here's your host paranormal 9 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:06,219 [Music] 10 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:09,270 welcome everyone to another exciting 11 00:01:15,410 --> 00:01:12,570 episode of Supernatural girls radio 12 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:15,420 I'm your host Patricia Baker and I'm 13 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:18,240 here with my co-host pique all the way 14 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:21,060 from sunny and hot Tucson that's right 15 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:24,210 BJ math and you like it yeah I can put 16 00:01:31,399 --> 00:01:29,970 on a spit and CPK so devoted to the show 17 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:31,409 she doesn't even run the air 18 00:01:35,660 --> 00:01:33,119 conditioning because it makes noise 19 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:35,670 that's right when our listeners to have 20 00:01:41,809 --> 00:01:39,810 very very good sound from us so she is 21 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:41,819 roasting away in her office tonight 22 00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:45,600 Yantra you're benefiting everybody like 23 00:01:49,789 --> 00:01:46,830 they really care as long as they've got 24 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:49,799 it cool they're fine that's right so 25 00:01:53,809 --> 00:01:51,450 last one out of the world we've had 26 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:53,819 quite a tragedy over there as you say 27 00:01:58,609 --> 00:01:54,990 what a shame 28 00:02:01,219 --> 00:01:58,619 again our prayers go out to the friends 29 00:02:04,270 --> 00:02:01,229 families and everybody who's suffering 30 00:02:09,290 --> 00:02:04,280 as a result of that horrific act vio 31 00:02:11,140 --> 00:02:09,300 mentioned also that Eric the area grande 32 00:02:13,339 --> 00:02:11,150 her mother was in the first row and 33 00:02:15,229 --> 00:02:13,349 stepped right up to the plate and was 34 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:15,239 helping everybody around her to get them 35 00:02:21,559 --> 00:02:17,730 protected and covered which all that was 36 00:02:22,729 --> 00:02:21,569 quite interesting considering she you 37 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:22,739 would have thought that they wasn't God 38 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:24,690 to cover her up instead she was doing 39 00:02:28,729 --> 00:02:27,300 her best to help out so that puts a 40 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:28,739 little change of the spend the daughter 41 00:02:33,890 --> 00:02:30,360 may be a little stinker but the mother 42 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:33,900 is grass exactly well that's nice to 43 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:36,209 hear that there are some heroes in all 44 00:02:40,490 --> 00:02:39,209 of this yes so it was a sad time and it 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:40,500 still is a sad time we're still all 46 00:02:45,710 --> 00:02:43,050 reeling from this it's unfortunate the 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:45,720 unbelief but we're going to have to push 48 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:49,050 ahead aren't we so what's happening with 49 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:50,989 our numbers what can we come to expect 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:54,239 well what's really going on at this 51 00:02:58,130 --> 00:02:55,890 point in time is because everything 52 00:02:59,479 --> 00:02:58,140 deals with family type things and one of 53 00:03:02,780 --> 00:02:59,489 the things I talked to you about earlier 54 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:02,790 today any time we deal with a month that 55 00:03:06,860 --> 00:03:04,680 deals with everything being perfection 56 00:03:09,050 --> 00:03:06,870 everybody's trying to make it perfect we 57 00:03:11,420 --> 00:03:09,060 also had issues with our pets in things 58 00:03:13,009 --> 00:03:11,430 of that nature and I've had five clients 59 00:03:15,890 --> 00:03:13,019 that have lost their pets this month 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:15,900 know there'll be illnesses lost pets 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:17,370 things will go wrong 62 00:03:23,119 --> 00:03:19,410 or issues will pop up about their pets 63 00:03:25,070 --> 00:03:23,129 or a neighbor's pet but president like I 64 00:03:27,259 --> 00:03:25,080 said five in one month that steps up 65 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:27,269 quite a bit usually very outside of the 66 00:03:31,220 --> 00:03:28,860 fact that he gets lost once in a while 67 00:03:33,710 --> 00:03:31,230 they'll usually get too much on that but 68 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:33,720 it's all about we're trying to make 69 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:36,390 things different getting things laid out 70 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:38,220 for what's coming up next month I think 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:40,049 is why we want everything perfect I 72 00:03:44,449 --> 00:03:41,730 think we're going to get a little bit 73 00:03:46,580 --> 00:03:44,459 more of what's just taken place worldly 74 00:03:48,860 --> 00:03:46,590 next month there's some legal things 75 00:03:50,690 --> 00:03:48,870 that will be taking place and not 76 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,700 comfortable things for the rest of us 77 00:03:57,199 --> 00:03:53,280 you can be watching some secrets being 78 00:03:59,180 --> 00:03:57,209 made don't the good and the bad of so I 79 00:04:01,850 --> 00:03:59,190 keep our fingers crossed that we here's 80 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:01,860 a good sequence not the bad words yes I 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:04,799 agree yeah we want all the stuff that we 82 00:04:10,369 --> 00:04:08,250 should be told right the honesty's has 83 00:04:12,170 --> 00:04:10,379 been missing heaven and that's part of 84 00:04:14,059 --> 00:04:12,180 what our show is about tonight that's 85 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:14,069 right and there has been a lack of 86 00:04:18,379 --> 00:04:16,130 honesty for quite some time for 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:18,389 thousands of years apparently we are 88 00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:20,250 going to find that out tonight when we 89 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:22,079 bring our guest on the air Michael a 90 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:24,840 cream oh he is a man of great courage 91 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:27,419 isn't if you use that imagine this 92 00:04:31,969 --> 00:04:29,900 courage he has taken on other 93 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,979 archaeologists and historians and it 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:33,840 presented an alternate view of what our 95 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:36,810 history really is and he's out it a lot 96 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:38,760 of them for covering things up we're 97 00:04:43,190 --> 00:04:41,010 going to find out what's really going on 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:43,200 tonight Michael is going to tell us the 99 00:04:47,659 --> 00:04:45,450 truth because you know the truth is 100 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:47,669 right here I'm supernatural girls so 101 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:49,680 we're going to get into a lot of things 102 00:04:54,409 --> 00:04:52,169 tonight with Michael Cremo and his looks 103 00:04:57,790 --> 00:04:54,419 are amazing and we will be creating oh 104 00:05:01,640 --> 00:04:57,800 my god Mike it is amazing look for great 105 00:05:03,230 --> 00:05:01,650 human devolution we devolved we're going 106 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:03,240 to find out how that happened 107 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:07,590 no you can talk to her about that and in 108 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:09,330 preparing normal news I want to suggest 109 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:11,280 everybody go to the Facebook page we've 110 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:12,960 been posting all kinds of cool stories 111 00:05:22,909 --> 00:05:19,410 we have a monster bear apparition it was 112 00:05:25,820 --> 00:05:22,919 terrorizing people we have what's that 113 00:05:27,950 --> 00:05:25,830 there was a gateway they discovered this 114 00:05:31,010 --> 00:05:27,960 is a scientific discovery a gateway 115 00:05:33,499 --> 00:05:31,020 between universes so hmm I want 116 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:33,509 who is traversing our universes going 117 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:35,610 from one to the other well it's not us 118 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:37,560 but I want to know who the gatekeeper is 119 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:41,430 yeah the position of power we want to 120 00:05:46,219 --> 00:05:44,520 know well and I also have for paranormal 121 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:46,229 news tonight I wanted to share personal 122 00:05:51,260 --> 00:05:48,210 experience because one of the things we 123 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:51,270 have shared on the show and questioned 124 00:06:01,790 --> 00:05:56,699 our guest about is this alien abductions 125 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:01,800 they seem to occur without our freewill 126 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:03,900 now we've been told over and over again 127 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:05,370 we have freewill 128 00:06:10,309 --> 00:06:08,130 on this planet we can decide yes or no 129 00:06:13,159 --> 00:06:10,319 so my question and your question to our 130 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:13,169 guests in the past have always been well 131 00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:15,110 then what happens with our freewill 132 00:06:22,219 --> 00:06:18,840 regarding these abductions so why don't 133 00:06:25,790 --> 00:06:22,229 people have the right to say no so 134 00:06:30,350 --> 00:06:25,800 here's what I learned you know I was a 135 00:06:32,809 --> 00:06:30,360 dream analyst for over 25 years so I pay 136 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:32,819 attention to my dreams and just the 137 00:06:38,719 --> 00:06:36,000 other night I had a dream and in the 138 00:06:41,149 --> 00:06:38,729 stream somebody was asking me for a 139 00:06:44,510 --> 00:06:41,159 tissue sample they said we just want a 140 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:44,520 little pinchy sample now whoever was 141 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:46,529 asking me it was someone I didn't know 142 00:06:50,689 --> 00:06:48,210 they didn't look like aliens but I 143 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:50,699 thought what a strange thing to ask me 144 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:54,330 for and I kept saying no no no and they 145 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:57,060 kept asking over and over again and then 146 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:00,240 I realized what this was the aliens in 147 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:02,340 my opinion the ETS and the 148 00:07:06,769 --> 00:07:03,840 interdimensional ZnO how to use the 149 00:07:08,809 --> 00:07:06,779 dreamscape to get to people so they 150 00:07:11,659 --> 00:07:08,819 visit you in your dreams like they were 151 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:11,669 visiting me and that's how they get 152 00:07:17,899 --> 00:07:14,330 around free will because they asked me 153 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:17,909 can we do this if I hadn't recognized 154 00:07:25,309 --> 00:07:21,919 what they were I might have said sure 155 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:25,319 but in fact most people are unconscious 156 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:26,849 they don't remember their dreams they 157 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:28,110 don't do their dream work naughty 158 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:30,960 naughty and here's the result so these 159 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:32,639 aliens in my opinion and 160 00:07:37,070 --> 00:07:34,710 interdimensional are getting permission 161 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:37,080 in the dream world so they can do 162 00:07:40,459 --> 00:07:38,430 whatever they want once they have that 163 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:40,469 permission they can take whatever 164 00:07:44,750 --> 00:07:42,539 samples they want good reason to do 165 00:07:47,870 --> 00:07:44,760 dream work everybody thank you 166 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:47,880 so yeah because you know this is not a 167 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:51,030 war of bullets this is not anything you 168 00:07:55,550 --> 00:07:53,400 can't do anything with weaponry with 169 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:55,560 these people left you John Edmonds and 170 00:08:00,830 --> 00:07:58,110 you have a big sword remember him and if 171 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:00,840 your device in handy but most of us 172 00:08:06,370 --> 00:08:03,510 don't have access to that we don't have 173 00:08:09,410 --> 00:08:06,380 the ability to use weapons like that and 174 00:08:11,690 --> 00:08:09,420 so what how do we fight against this 175 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:11,700 this is how the more conscious you 176 00:08:16,270 --> 00:08:14,670 become the more aware you become when 177 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:16,280 you're when you're dreaming 178 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:20,310 deaf your protection no that's what to 179 00:08:26,180 --> 00:08:22,610 do everybody that's what to look for and 180 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:26,190 I have a dream book it's on Amazon it's 181 00:08:30,350 --> 00:08:28,530 like it's very short very sweet just 182 00:08:32,150 --> 00:08:30,360 like here's what tonight need to do to 183 00:08:33,830 --> 00:08:32,160 start remembering your dreams here's 184 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:33,840 what you need to do to become more aware 185 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:37,890 in your dreams so so look it up it's 186 00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:40,710 easy enough to download and get dizzy 187 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:43,020 well this is your protection I would 188 00:08:47,540 --> 00:08:45,900 make this a disentis yeah you know it's 189 00:08:49,970 --> 00:08:47,550 the easy things are usually the hardest 190 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:49,980 first to get into doing aren't they well 191 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:51,930 yeah they do to start making a list of 192 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:54,810 what we put out but you know what I've 193 00:08:58,730 --> 00:08:56,610 seen a lot of people that are incredibly 194 00:09:02,030 --> 00:08:58,740 lazy and not our audience of course 195 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:02,040 because our audience of course I'm but a 196 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:03,720 lot of people are lazy and they don't 197 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:06,450 want to put the time into keeping a 198 00:09:10,970 --> 00:09:08,130 dream journal or remembering their 199 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:10,980 dreams it's like how much I'd rather be 200 00:09:14,060 --> 00:09:12,450 on their iPhone but you can write your 201 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:14,070 dreams down on your iPhone too if you 202 00:09:18,890 --> 00:09:16,320 want that's easy enough to do 203 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:18,900 speaking of that next month because of 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:21,000 the seven Universal month there's going 205 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:24,650 to be a lot of a dreaming going on Allah 206 00:09:30,770 --> 00:09:28,080 okay Thai hello get your paper ready 207 00:09:33,020 --> 00:09:30,780 people that's right that's right and 208 00:09:35,570 --> 00:09:33,030 piqué you have some classes coming up 209 00:09:38,060 --> 00:09:35,580 yes I'm going to start teaching it some 210 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:38,070 additional numerology classes I'll post 211 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:39,240 to my webpage 212 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:42,090 Patricia Kirkman calm after the first 213 00:09:47,390 --> 00:09:45,210 week of June and I'm going to be doing 214 00:09:51,140 --> 00:09:47,400 the mystic messenger psychic fair the 215 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:51,150 fourth of June excellent so if you're in 216 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:53,970 tucson area you know where to go for the 217 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:56,130 psychic here we'll announce it again so 218 00:10:01,139 --> 00:09:57,850 you don't miss it and you 219 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:01,149 so see it on P K's website so all kinds 220 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:02,860 of fun things to do to raise your 221 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:05,529 awareness you know don't let yourself 222 00:10:13,379 --> 00:10:10,420 stay asleep wake up or dream whether the 223 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:13,389 trade-offs in your integration of that I 224 00:10:20,430 --> 00:10:18,310 like that idea it's a new switch okay so 225 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:20,440 go to our Facebook page and give us a 226 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:23,290 like follow us follow us on Twitter 227 00:10:26,999 --> 00:10:24,940 we've got a lots of things coming up 228 00:10:29,550 --> 00:10:27,009 lots of things tonight you're going to 229 00:10:32,189 --> 00:10:29,560 be very excited to hear about this work 230 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:32,199 human devolution it's beautiful it is 231 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:35,170 and it's filled with information it's 232 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:36,880 going to rock your world so we highly 233 00:10:41,309 --> 00:10:39,610 recommend you get that also other books 234 00:10:42,809 --> 00:10:41,319 that Michael has written forbidden 235 00:10:45,629 --> 00:10:42,819 archeology we're going to talk about 236 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:45,639 some of that as well now I'm going to 237 00:10:48,689 --> 00:10:47,470 read a little bit about Michael because 238 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:48,699 he's very impressive 239 00:10:55,740 --> 00:10:52,690 yes you okay yes he is a research 240 00:10:58,590 --> 00:10:55,750 associate and he specializes in the 241 00:11:00,050 --> 00:10:58,600 history and philosophy of science he is 242 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:00,060 a member of the world archaeological 243 00:11:05,249 --> 00:11:02,800 Congress the European Association of 244 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:05,259 archaeologists the history of Science 245 00:11:10,439 --> 00:11:07,410 Society and the philosophy of science 246 00:11:12,660 --> 00:11:10,449 Association this man has taken on 247 00:11:14,939 --> 00:11:12,670 traditional history and he's going to 248 00:11:17,850 --> 00:11:14,949 tell us the truth tonight so Michael 249 00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:17,860 Cremo welcome to the show good to be 250 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:19,750 with the supernatural girls and 251 00:11:25,710 --> 00:11:22,410 everybody who's listening and watching 252 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:25,720 thank you it's our pleasure to have you 253 00:11:30,059 --> 00:11:28,240 this is amazing what you've done you've 254 00:11:34,139 --> 00:11:30,069 really outed a lot of things that what 255 00:11:36,509 --> 00:11:34,149 got you interested in this well that may 256 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:36,519 have something to do that with the way 257 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:39,730 that I was raised you know my father was 258 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:41,920 an intelligence officer in the United 259 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:44,560 States Air Force so that meant a couple 260 00:11:49,889 --> 00:11:47,920 of things for me as I was growing up one 261 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:49,899 thing and that is that our family was 262 00:11:55,079 --> 00:11:52,000 moving to a lot of different places 263 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:55,089 around the world and around the United 264 00:12:00,329 --> 00:11:55,810 States 265 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:00,339 so one effect of that was that I came to 266 00:12:05,610 --> 00:12:02,290 understand there's more than one way to 267 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:05,620 look at things you know I got exposed to 268 00:12:10,970 --> 00:12:07,930 a lot of different cultures and 269 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:10,980 worldviews as I was growing up 270 00:12:18,490 --> 00:12:14,730 and the one that most fascinated me was 271 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:18,500 the spiritual world view of ancient 272 00:12:28,819 --> 00:12:23,010 India and eventually I became the 273 00:12:32,569 --> 00:12:28,829 disciple of a guru from India and as 274 00:12:35,230 --> 00:12:32,579 part of that I began studying the 275 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:35,240 ancient Sanskrit writings of India 276 00:12:42,290 --> 00:12:39,110 especially the historical and 277 00:12:47,329 --> 00:12:42,300 cosmological writings which are called 278 00:12:49,730 --> 00:12:47,339 the Puranas and therein I learned many 279 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:49,740 things that were quite different from 280 00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:52,290 anything I learned from my teachers in 281 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:56,519 high school or university one thing I 282 00:13:03,170 --> 00:12:59,519 learned from these ancient writings is 283 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:03,180 that our human presence on this earth 284 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:06,690 goes back many billions and millions of 285 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:08,820 years all the way back to the very 286 00:13:14,449 --> 00:13:11,250 beginnings of the history of life on 287 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:14,459 Earth from my teachers in school I had 288 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:17,220 always learned something quite different 289 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:21,240 namely that humans like us first 290 00:13:26,689 --> 00:13:24,360 appeared less than two hundred thousand 291 00:13:29,660 --> 00:13:26,699 years ago on this planet before that 292 00:13:33,829 --> 00:13:29,670 there were no humans like us it's more 293 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:33,839 primitive ape-like human ancestors so I 294 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:38,610 began to wonder how I should react to 295 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:41,550 these writings to the information that 296 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:45,420 was in them which is found not just in 297 00:13:49,939 --> 00:13:47,250 the ancient Sanskrit writings of India 298 00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:49,949 but in most of the ancient wisdom 299 00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:53,190 traditions of the world they all speak 300 00:14:00,019 --> 00:13:56,579 in the very ancient human presence on 301 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:00,029 this planet so I had asked myself is 302 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:04,220 this ecology or is there perhaps some 303 00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:07,649 factual basis for it so that's what got 304 00:14:12,259 --> 00:14:09,630 me looking into the history of 305 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:12,269 archeology you know if you look in the 306 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:15,180 current textbooks you're only going to 307 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:18,600 find the discoveries that support the 308 00:14:24,290 --> 00:14:22,649 current dominant paradigm the one that's 309 00:14:29,810 --> 00:14:24,300 prevalent in this 310 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:29,820 typical day but I decided I'm going to 311 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:32,970 look beyond the textbooks and here again 312 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:36,230 maybe there was some influence from my 313 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:39,390 family background I grew up among people 314 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:42,180 in the intelligence services diplomatic 315 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:45,270 service military service and I could 316 00:14:52,190 --> 00:14:48,060 understand from a very young age that 317 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:52,200 yes there is such a thing as secret 318 00:14:59,140 --> 00:14:56,160 knowledge there are things going on in 319 00:15:03,650 --> 00:14:59,150 the world that most people simply aren't 320 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:03,660 aware of maybe it's leaked from time to 321 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:07,650 time but in general it's it's kept out 322 00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:11,760 of out of sight so I decided let me look 323 00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:16,680 beyond the textbooks let me look into 324 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:20,630 the original scientific reports by 325 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:23,450 archaeologists geologists 326 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:26,760 paleontologists and other scientists who 327 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:30,690 are digging into the earth and what I 328 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:34,290 did that I was amazed to find there were 329 00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:37,710 many scientists reporting discoveries of 330 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:42,270 human bones human artifacts and human 331 00:15:50,570 --> 00:15:46,410 footprints going back many many millions 332 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:50,580 of years so I collected all of those 333 00:15:57,530 --> 00:15:53,880 reports in a book I called forbidden 334 00:16:01,940 --> 00:15:57,540 archeology and you know sometimes people 335 00:16:06,140 --> 00:16:01,950 ask well why forbidden it's because it's 336 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:06,150 outside the box in terms of mainstream 337 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:08,970 thinking and this evidence has been 338 00:16:17,710 --> 00:16:12,750 subjected to what I call a process of 339 00:16:19,940 --> 00:16:17,720 knowledge filtration you know a 340 00:16:22,970 --> 00:16:19,950 scientific discipline is usually 341 00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:22,980 governed by some kind of paradigm some 342 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:25,380 set of beliefs and methods and 343 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:28,650 conclusions that dominate that 344 00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:31,500 discipline and reports of evidence that 345 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:34,500 conform to that paradigm will pass 346 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:38,130 through the knowledge filter very easily 347 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,290 but if you've got evidence that 348 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:42,720 radically contradicts a dominant 349 00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:45,420 paradigm it tends to be filtered out and 350 00:16:52,750 --> 00:16:48,150 by that I mean it's ignored 351 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:52,760 it's dismissed it's hidden away 352 00:16:59,900 --> 00:16:58,290 sometimes even suppressed well it sounds 353 00:17:02,510 --> 00:16:59,910 like from your books that we've read 354 00:17:05,210 --> 00:17:02,520 that the archaeologists some of them 355 00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:05,220 we're burying things just as fast as 356 00:17:10,189 --> 00:17:08,280 they were uncovering them some of these 357 00:17:13,069 --> 00:17:10,199 things like you just been talking about 358 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:13,079 but don't fit in to their view of what 359 00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:16,050 our history is yeah I could give you a 360 00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,199 couple of examples of that as I said I 361 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:21,600 look into the history of archaeology and 362 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:24,930 some of the examples I give are from the 363 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:27,329 earlier history and some from more 364 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:29,970 recent times one of the fascinating 365 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:32,730 cases from the early history of 366 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:36,410 archaeology is the California gold mine 367 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:38,940 discoveries in the nineteenth century 368 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:42,990 gold was discovered in California miners 369 00:17:48,290 --> 00:17:46,050 came from all over the world to get it 370 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:48,300 and they were digging tunnels into the 371 00:17:53,930 --> 00:17:51,330 sides of mountains like Table Mountain 372 00:17:57,530 --> 00:17:53,940 in the Sierra Nevada mountains near the 373 00:18:00,560 --> 00:17:57,540 town of Sonora in central California 374 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,570 and deep inside these tunnels the miners 375 00:18:06,290 --> 00:18:03,200 were finding human bones and human 376 00:18:10,930 --> 00:18:06,300 artifacts they were finding obsidian 377 00:18:13,310 --> 00:18:10,940 spearpoint stone mortars and pestles and 378 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:13,320 what makes these things really 379 00:18:19,550 --> 00:18:16,230 interesting to me is they were found in 380 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:19,560 layers of rock that modern geologists 381 00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:25,170 tell us are about 50 million years old 382 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:28,380 which is really quite astonishing and 383 00:18:34,550 --> 00:18:31,020 these discoveries came to the attention 384 00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:34,560 of dr. JD Whitney who was the chief 385 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:38,220 government geologist of California so he 386 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:41,090 went and investigated these cases 387 00:18:46,610 --> 00:18:43,800 carefully studied the conditions under 388 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:46,620 which the discoveries were made and he 389 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:49,110 wrote a massive report about them that 390 00:18:54,810 --> 00:18:50,500 was published by 391 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:54,820 Harvard University in the year 1880 but 392 00:19:02,970 --> 00:18:58,690 we don't read about these discoveries in 393 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:02,980 today's textbooks because of the process 394 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:05,650 of knowledge filtration I was talking 395 00:19:11,010 --> 00:19:08,640 about and one of the scientists most 396 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:11,020 responsible for the knowledge filtering 397 00:19:18,060 --> 00:19:14,590 in this particular case was dr. William 398 00:19:24,029 --> 00:19:18,070 Holmes who was an anthropologist working 399 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:24,039 at the Smithsonian Institution and he 400 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:27,970 said I wrote if dr. Whitney had 401 00:19:33,899 --> 00:19:30,960 understood the theory of human evolution 402 00:19:35,399 --> 00:19:33,909 he wouldn't have published that report 403 00:19:39,060 --> 00:19:35,409 he wouldn't have come to those 404 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:39,070 conclusions that he lived in these very 405 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:42,400 ancient times in other words if the 406 00:19:48,090 --> 00:19:45,520 facts did not support the dominant 407 00:19:50,340 --> 00:19:48,100 theory the facts should not have been 408 00:19:54,270 --> 00:19:50,350 published they should have they should 409 00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:54,280 just be cast into oblivion forgotten and 410 00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:58,450 basically that's what's happened but 411 00:20:04,110 --> 00:20:01,360 some of the artifacts from the 412 00:20:06,380 --> 00:20:04,120 California gold mines are still in the 413 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:06,390 collection of the Museum of Anthropology 414 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:09,850 at the University of California at 415 00:20:14,419 --> 00:20:12,370 Berkeley they're they're not displayed 416 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:14,429 to the public they're kept in a storage 417 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:17,710 building several miles from the museum 418 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:20,289 but I did get permission from the 419 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:22,690 directors of the museum to study and 420 00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:25,870 photograph them and they are still there 421 00:20:31,770 --> 00:20:28,840 I also went to the mountains of 422 00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:31,780 California and I was able to relocate 423 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:34,960 some of the old 19th century gold mining 424 00:20:40,529 --> 00:20:37,450 tunnels where these objects were 425 00:20:44,399 --> 00:20:40,539 originally discovered so it should be 426 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:44,409 possible to do more research there and 427 00:20:53,010 --> 00:20:48,570 uncover more of these things 428 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:53,020 hmm but they don't welcome that do they 429 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:54,520 they don't welcome that with open arms 430 00:21:02,250 --> 00:20:56,320 they're going to just try to bury it 431 00:21:04,290 --> 00:21:02,260 again absolutely not and here's a case 432 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:04,300 from the very recent 433 00:21:09,630 --> 00:21:07,330 history of archeology just it may seem a 434 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:09,640 little insignificant when I tell you 435 00:21:17,660 --> 00:21:13,330 what it is but it illustrates how this 436 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:17,670 knowledge filtering process operates in 437 00:21:26,370 --> 00:21:22,150 2016 just last year archaeologists 438 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:26,380 working at Olduvai Gorge in the country 439 00:21:34,740 --> 00:21:32,110 of Tanzania in East Africa found a small 440 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:34,750 piece of bone actually was a finger bone 441 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:40,090 yeah the bone of the finger here is all 442 00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:44,170 bone it was found in layers of rock 1 443 00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:47,430 million eight hundred thousand years old 444 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:50,680 the archaeologists who discovered it 445 00:21:57,930 --> 00:21:55,360 very carefully measured this bone they 446 00:22:01,080 --> 00:21:57,940 did all kinds of measurements on it then 447 00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:01,090 they compared the measurements to the 448 00:22:09,740 --> 00:22:05,080 same bone the same finger bone of all 449 00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:09,750 different species of Eakes monkeys ate 450 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:12,790 man-like Australopithecus and Homo 451 00:22:23,790 --> 00:22:18,490 habilis and anatomically modern humans 452 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:23,800 and they found that this finger bone fit 453 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:27,910 in the anatomically modern human group 454 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:30,640 and it was different from the same 455 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:33,910 finger bone of any species of ape or 456 00:22:42,330 --> 00:22:38,920 monkey or a man like Australopithecus or 457 00:22:45,090 --> 00:22:42,340 Homo habilis but what they said in their 458 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:45,100 scientific report was very interesting 459 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:50,680 they said ok we discovered this finger 460 00:22:58,140 --> 00:22:53,710 bone it's exactly like that of an 461 00:23:03,270 --> 00:22:58,150 anatomically modern Homo sapiens but we 462 00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:03,280 can't call it Homo sapiens because it 463 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:07,180 was found in layers of rock 1 million 464 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:09,490 eight hundred thousand years old so it 465 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:12,550 would be too old you know it just shows 466 00:23:20,730 --> 00:23:17,740 you how the psychology works sometimes 467 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:20,740 scientists can be staring evidence for 468 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:24,790 extreme human antiquity right in the eye 469 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:27,250 it's right in their hands they're 470 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:30,400 looking at it it's human it's found in 471 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:32,530 layers of rock 1 million eight hundred 472 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:37,210 thousand years old but they cannot admit 473 00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:41,440 it as evidence that humans existed that 474 00:23:46,620 --> 00:23:43,300 far in the past because it would 475 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:46,630 completely upset their paradigm the 476 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:48,760 other been interesting psychological 477 00:23:55,049 --> 00:23:51,370 experiments that have been done in the 478 00:23:58,380 --> 00:23:55,059 1940s some psychologists did some 479 00:24:03,150 --> 00:23:58,390 experiments with playing cards what they 480 00:24:06,830 --> 00:24:03,160 did is they modified some cards and a 481 00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:06,840 deck say if you have a six of Hearts 482 00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:12,220 normally it would be red they painted it 483 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:15,070 black or if you have a four of spades 484 00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:18,370 normal and be black they made it red and 485 00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:21,820 they put a few of these altered cards in 486 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:25,390 a deck and then they would show the 487 00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:28,530 cards in the deck one after another to 488 00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:31,660 people asking them if they could notice 489 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:37,390 anything and no one noticed that those 490 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:44,320 cards didn't fit and it's the same kind 491 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:47,110 of principle operates in the scientific 492 00:24:54,180 --> 00:24:51,370 world sometimes scientists don't see 493 00:24:57,150 --> 00:24:54,190 what's really there in front of them 494 00:25:00,810 --> 00:24:57,160 they see what they expect to see they 495 00:25:04,650 --> 00:25:00,820 see what their their paradigm allows 496 00:25:06,270 --> 00:25:04,660 them to see even though it's staring 497 00:25:09,419 --> 00:25:06,280 them right in the face just like you 498 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:09,429 could show the person the black six of 499 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:13,450 hearts they will see it as a normal card 500 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:18,880 they won't notice it as an anomaly and 501 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:23,230 you know if if this happened just once 502 00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:26,550 or twice you know maybe you could 503 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:31,000 overlook it but what I've shown in my 504 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:31,570 book 505 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:34,570 forbidden archeology is this hasn't 506 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:37,510 happened just once or twice there are 507 00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:41,370 hundreds of these cases of human bones 508 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,660 human artifacts and human footprints 509 00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:49,600 going back tens of millions even 510 00:26:01,440 --> 00:25:56,620 hundreds of millions of years and yet 511 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:01,450 some people oh we're hearing some noise 512 00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:05,730 outside on that ankle Laverne 513 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:10,420 okay some people yeah what difference 514 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:12,550 does it make whether human beings have 515 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,370 been around a few hundred that was this 516 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:16,960 what I was going to ask it's like you 517 00:26:20,790 --> 00:26:18,610 know what difference does it make why 518 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:20,800 not just come out and tell the truth 519 00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:23,350 what difference does it make the big 520 00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:26,020 deal well well I think the significance 521 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:31,300 of this evidence is that it points to 522 00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:36,930 the need for new explanations of human 523 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:44,070 origins and the fact is that those 524 00:26:53,010 --> 00:26:47,170 alternative explanations generally 525 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:53,020 involve something that goes beyond the 526 00:26:58,890 --> 00:26:56,170 material that goes into the realm of 527 00:27:02,720 --> 00:26:58,900 what you would call or some people would 528 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:02,730 call the paranormal but which probably 529 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:06,130 many of your viewers would consider to 530 00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:08,260 be the real normal in other words 531 00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:11,260 something that goes beyond materialistic 532 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:15,060 reductionistic kinds of scientific 533 00:27:23,010 --> 00:27:18,670 explanations something that involves non 534 00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:23,020 material principles and they don't like 535 00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:25,740 that very much 536 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:30,580 yep and it also states have a thing I 537 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:32,410 mean they've also just actually 538 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:34,690 destroyed we mean we've heard rumors and 539 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:36,370 we're hoping to be able to tell us what 540 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:37,810 you know about this but we've heard 541 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:40,240 rumors that even museums have been known 542 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:44,080 to actually destroy things that were 543 00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:45,130 brought in that they 544 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:48,309 field didn't follow the rules of what 545 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:50,679 they think happened is that true has 546 00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:55,120 that really happened things like that do 547 00:28:02,549 --> 00:27:58,480 happen things do get destroyed sometimes 548 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:02,559 it's due to war or civil disturbances a 549 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:04,660 lot of this is happening in the Middle 550 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:07,929 East now where archaeological monuments 551 00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:10,480 and museums are being looted and 552 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:14,260 destroyed but paradise and that's a 553 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:16,960 that's another thing but what you're 554 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:19,600 talking about is something that's maybe 555 00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:26,650 even more sinister and sometimes objects 556 00:28:34,610 --> 00:28:30,940 do go missing from museums I'll give one 557 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:34,620 example and my book forbidden archeology 558 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:38,650 one of the most extreme anomalies that I 559 00:28:46,830 --> 00:28:41,710 included in the book was some round 560 00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:46,840 metallic spheres that come from a mine 561 00:28:53,630 --> 00:28:50,620 in South Africa near a place called Otto 562 00:28:57,149 --> 00:28:53,640 Stahl and the Western Transvaal region 563 00:29:00,539 --> 00:28:57,159 these objects are one or two inches in 564 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:00,549 diameter the most interesting feature of 565 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:03,220 them is the parallel grooves that go 566 00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:10,240 around the center of each object so in 567 00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:13,950 my book forbidden archeology there's a 568 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:16,620 picture a photograph of one of these 569 00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:19,450 objects with the grooves going around 570 00:29:24,659 --> 00:29:23,020 its equator these we're going to we're 571 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:24,669 just going to take a short break so 572 00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:25,870 we're going to hear more about these 573 00:29:31,289 --> 00:29:28,840 spheres and the parallel lines on them 574 00:29:33,779 --> 00:29:31,299 when we come back because this is 575 00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:33,789 fascinating we have so many questions 576 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:37,740 for you Michael so everybody stay tuned 577 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:40,630 we are speaking with Michael Cremo who's 578 00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:43,210 the author of some very amazing books 579 00:29:48,659 --> 00:29:45,720 about our past human devolution and 580 00:29:51,299 --> 00:29:48,669 forbidden archeology and more you can 581 00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:51,309 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now I can hear you but your voices 612 00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:51,430 are coming out not through my headset 613 00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:55,920 but through the speakers and my laptop 614 00:38:02,520 --> 00:37:58,859 okay as long as you can hear us that 615 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:02,530 will fire some questions at you tell us 616 00:38:08,789 --> 00:38:05,290 the truth about bigfoot people have 617 00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:08,799 found evidence have they not in my book 618 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:11,440 forbidden archeology i have an entire 619 00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:14,290 chapter called evidence for living eight 620 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:18,220 men basically when i look at the 621 00:38:25,010 --> 00:38:22,960 archaeological record i see a different 622 00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:25,020 pattern than 623 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:27,630 most scientists would see who are 624 00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:29,850 operating according to the orthodox 625 00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:33,270 paradigm of human evolution they would 626 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:36,200 see an evolutionary pattern where 627 00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:38,760 millions of years ago you have some 628 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:41,880 primitive Apes and monkeys then those 629 00:38:48,290 --> 00:38:44,670 are followed by what we could call eight 630 00:38:50,810 --> 00:38:48,300 men for lack of a simpler term 631 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:50,820 I mean hominins is the technical 632 00:38:57,590 --> 00:38:53,610 scientific word for eight men and then 633 00:39:01,940 --> 00:38:57,600 finally about 200,000 years ago you 634 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:01,950 would see humans like us anatomically 635 00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:06,810 modern Homo sapiens but when I look at 636 00:39:13,570 --> 00:39:09,540 the archaeological record I see there's 637 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:13,580 evidence that humans like us existed in 638 00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:17,040 the very distant past millions of years 639 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:22,230 ago and that we coexisted with primitive 640 00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:25,890 Apes and monkeys and various kinds of 641 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:29,280 hominids or eight men and I think the 642 00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:32,310 same is still true today think even 643 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:37,140 today we're still coexisting on this 644 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:41,850 planet with Apes and monkeys and various 645 00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:45,930 kinds of men and it's another field in 646 00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:48,390 which there's been a tremendous amount 647 00:39:55,780 --> 00:39:51,540 of knowledge filtration nevertheless 648 00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:55,790 there are scientists who have reported 649 00:40:01,250 --> 00:39:59,040 evidence for living eight men they 650 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:01,260 called them by different names in 651 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:04,010 different parts of the world in North 652 00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:07,050 America they call them soft Squatch or 653 00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:10,830 Bigfoot in Central Asia they call them 654 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:15,060 all mus in the Himalayan regions they 655 00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:18,090 call them the Yeti there are different 656 00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:20,340 names for them in different parts of the 657 00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:23,100 world and there's a tremendous amount of 658 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:29,030 evidence for the fact that we are still 659 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:32,310 coexisting with eight men and apes of 660 00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:35,950 monkeys as we have in the past 661 00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:44,099 now there are researchers who have had 662 00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:47,710 paranormal experiences in connection 663 00:40:56,430 --> 00:40:52,980 with these eight men like creatures and 664 00:41:00,780 --> 00:40:56,440 in my studies of the ancient Sanskrit 665 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:00,790 writings of India I see something 666 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:04,270 similar the ancient Sanskrit writings of 667 00:41:07,410 --> 00:41:06,760 India described that millions of years 668 00:41:12,030 --> 00:41:07,420 ago 669 00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:12,040 there were in fact creatures with 670 00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:15,990 ape-like bodies human-like intelligence 671 00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:20,740 and paranormal powers like the ability 672 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:24,390 to fly unaided through the sky 673 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:29,230 communicate telepathically and things of 674 00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:32,770 that sort that is incredible 675 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:35,140 and so here we are today with people 676 00:41:42,510 --> 00:41:38,530 that claim to be in contact with Bigfoot 677 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:42,520 and I again see it they some of them see 678 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:47,490 Bigfoot as a very spiritual creature and 679 00:41:53,339 --> 00:41:50,650 more spirit than matter and able to 680 00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:53,349 manipulate their vibration so they can 681 00:41:57,720 --> 00:41:55,540 move into and out of matter so it's a 682 00:42:00,089 --> 00:41:57,730 very interesting concept that some of 683 00:42:02,549 --> 00:42:00,099 the researchers are bringing forth and 684 00:42:03,319 --> 00:42:02,559 what about extraterrestrials do we have 685 00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:03,329 evidence 686 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:06,359 archaeologically of extraterrestrials 687 00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:10,480 well according to the ancient Sanskrit 688 00:42:18,990 --> 00:42:15,790 writings of India there are 400,000 689 00:42:25,470 --> 00:42:19,000 human-like species scattered throughout 690 00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:25,480 the universe so yes I exciting existence 691 00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:29,740 of extraterrestrials you can go to India 692 00:42:36,510 --> 00:42:34,390 there are cave temples that are very 693 00:42:41,490 --> 00:42:36,520 elaborately carved and some of the 694 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:41,500 carvings show spacecraft they're called 695 00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:46,660 Vimanas and I have an expanded 696 00:42:53,849 --> 00:42:49,780 conception of what it means to be an 697 00:42:58,190 --> 00:42:53,859 extraterrestrial I would say that as 698 00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,200 conscious beings were all 699 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:00,880 extraterrestrials because as conscious 700 00:43:06,839 --> 00:43:04,240 beings none of us is from this level of 701 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:06,849 reality we're not from the world of 702 00:43:15,630 --> 00:43:10,930 matter were from some other region of 703 00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:15,640 the cosmos some other dimension yeah the 704 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:20,020 Vedic cosmos is a multi-level cosmos 705 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:24,790 where you have one level of the cosmos 706 00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:28,930 dominated by gross material elements and 707 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:32,440 energies that's the level where we find 708 00:43:39,539 --> 00:43:36,910 ourselves now it's inhabited by 709 00:43:42,299 --> 00:43:39,549 creatures adapted to the conditions 710 00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:42,309 there beyond that there's a more subtle 711 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:44,920 realm of different intellectual and 712 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:48,480 mental energies it's inhabited by beings 713 00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:52,329 adapted to the conditions there so there 714 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:55,059 are extraterrestrial beings from that 715 00:43:59,370 --> 00:43:57,250 level and then there's what I call the 716 00:44:02,460 --> 00:43:59,380 level of pure consciousness and there 717 00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:02,470 are extraterrestrial beings from that 718 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:05,980 level of reality and on all those 719 00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:10,450 different levels they have they have 720 00:44:18,270 --> 00:44:15,220 craft in which they can travel through 721 00:44:20,730 --> 00:44:18,280 the different levels and around the 722 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:20,740 different levels so there are all kinds 723 00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:23,710 I have an expanded conception of what it 724 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,319 needs to be an extraterrestrial some 725 00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:27,839 people when they think of 726 00:44:34,349 --> 00:44:31,380 extraterrestrial yeah they think only of 727 00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:34,359 flesh-and-blood creatures like ourselves 728 00:44:39,569 --> 00:44:36,940 from some other planet and I think such 729 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:39,579 creatures do exist I don't think that's 730 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:41,940 the end 731 00:44:47,870 --> 00:44:44,089 what it means to be an extraterrestrial 732 00:44:51,099 --> 00:44:47,880 I think there you could also call them 733 00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:51,109 extra dimensional beings if you make 734 00:44:56,059 --> 00:44:53,190 sure that make sense 735 00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:56,069 now here's another question for you back 736 00:45:01,640 --> 00:44:59,400 to archaeology and the timeline they 737 00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:01,650 would like to know what is the timeline 738 00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:05,579 for the short-lived cro-magnon man move 739 00:45:17,710 --> 00:45:13,380 Oh crow magma is a type of anatomically 740 00:45:30,589 --> 00:45:23,270 they lived in Europe maybe around 40 or 741 00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:30,599 50 thousand years ago and Accord that's 742 00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:33,710 just according to the mainstream 743 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:38,670 paradigm but I believe humans of the 744 00:45:46,099 --> 00:45:42,210 cro-magnon type of the Homo sapiens type 745 00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:46,109 have existed on earth for many many 746 00:45:53,660 --> 00:45:48,150 millions of years and there's 747 00:45:57,069 --> 00:45:53,670 archaeological evidence for that so but 748 00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,079 according to the Orthodox paradigm 749 00:46:03,859 --> 00:46:00,319 cro-magnon would be the type of 750 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:03,869 anatomically modern human that existed 751 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,490 in Europe 40 or 50 thousand years ago 752 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:10,560 but as far as I'm concerned there's 753 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:14,250 evidence that humans of that type 754 00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:17,760 existed in Europe four million years ago 755 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,119 20 million years ago 30 million years 756 00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:24,240 ago you know there are anatomically 757 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,390 modern human skeletons that were found 758 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:30,000 in the 19th century by an Italian 759 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:33,810 geologist named semi-rugged Soni at a 760 00:46:40,819 --> 00:46:38,010 place called Castaneda low and northern 761 00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:40,829 Italy and they were these human 762 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:43,230 skeletons were found in layers of rock 763 00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:46,530 for a million years okay 764 00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:51,540 so I think the hormone Aryan type and 765 00:46:57,350 --> 00:46:54,540 just very far back in time yeah that's 766 00:47:00,050 --> 00:46:57,360 incredible four million years ago at 767 00:47:02,090 --> 00:47:00,060 400,000 four million but let me ask you 768 00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:02,100 this too because in your book human 769 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:06,680 devolution you also reference some 770 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:09,330 experiences and experiments that were 771 00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:12,690 done with psychic mediums and they were 772 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:15,870 successful and but they were dismissed 773 00:47:23,180 --> 00:47:19,650 so tell us what part of the what we 774 00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:23,190 could call the forbidden physics if you 775 00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:27,750 want to call it that same most high 776 00:47:33,470 --> 00:47:30,660 school students when they study physics 777 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:33,480 they learn about the work of Marie and 778 00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:37,050 Pierre Curie yeah they're very famous 779 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:39,240 they were husband and wife they were 780 00:47:46,070 --> 00:47:42,570 both physicists they both won Nobel 781 00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:46,080 prizes for their work in discovering 782 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:49,560 radium every high school physics student 783 00:47:55,340 --> 00:47:51,810 learns about them but what you don't 784 00:47:59,090 --> 00:47:55,350 read in the physics textbooks is that 785 00:48:02,810 --> 00:47:59,100 they were doing experiments with mediums 786 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:02,820 they were part of a group of twenty or 787 00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:06,210 thirty prominent European scientists who 788 00:48:13,850 --> 00:48:09,870 were doing such research in Paris early 789 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:13,860 in the 20th century one thing they did 790 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:16,410 is a couple of years of research with an 791 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:20,610 Italian medium named Yusei Pia Palladino 792 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:24,330 and this woman had some paranormal 793 00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:28,050 abilities she had psychokinetic or mind 794 00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:33,680 over matter abilities so they did 795 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:37,800 experiments with this medium and the 796 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:41,010 psychology Institute in Paris early in 797 00:48:53,180 --> 00:48:45,450 the 20th century and they had her one 798 00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:53,190 day and yes she was sitting in a chair 799 00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:56,760 in the laboratory and some of the 800 00:49:00,580 --> 00:48:58,490 scientists were holding her 801 00:49:04,180 --> 00:49:00,590 and some of the scientists were holding 802 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:04,190 her feet making sure she could move at 803 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:05,050 all 804 00:49:10,750 --> 00:49:08,630 to carry out any kind of trickery or 805 00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:10,760 anything and in the middle of the 806 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:13,400 laboratory Pierre Curie said that in 807 00:49:19,660 --> 00:49:16,130 broad daylight under perfect conditions 808 00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:19,670 of observation a large table was 809 00:49:27,490 --> 00:49:22,190 floating about a meter about three feet 810 00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:27,500 off off the ground and he was measuring 811 00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:30,110 it how high it was floating he was 812 00:49:36,910 --> 00:49:33,680 tightening it how how long it was 813 00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:36,920 floating and the entire group of 814 00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:39,740 scientists including five Nobel Prize 815 00:49:48,730 --> 00:49:46,400 winners including the furies they they 816 00:49:51,850 --> 00:49:48,740 signed documents saying these things are 817 00:49:54,130 --> 00:49:51,860 absolutely true and Pierre Curie said we 818 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:54,140 have to take things like this into 819 00:50:00,190 --> 00:49:56,330 account if we're going to have a 820 00:50:02,130 --> 00:50:00,200 complete picture of reality and I agree 821 00:50:06,820 --> 00:50:02,140 with that but because of this knowledge 822 00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:06,830 filtering process this kind of evidence 823 00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:10,520 is absent from today's textbooks and 824 00:50:16,359 --> 00:50:14,480 it's categorized I mean people don't 825 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:16,369 even know about it they don't know the 826 00:50:23,530 --> 00:50:19,609 real history of physics the real history 827 00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:23,540 of science if they did what we're now 828 00:50:28,780 --> 00:50:26,150 calling the paranormal would be accepted 829 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:28,790 as part of the normal world of physics 830 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:31,760 yeah I once was giving a lecture about 831 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:34,930 this hidden history of physics at a 832 00:50:43,210 --> 00:50:39,290 university in Europe and my audience was 833 00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:43,220 about 100 professors of physics and 834 00:50:48,250 --> 00:50:46,220 graduate students of physics so I went 835 00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:48,260 through this whole hidden history of 836 00:50:53,410 --> 00:50:50,270 physics including the work of the 837 00:50:56,830 --> 00:50:53,420 Curie's and one of the physicists came 838 00:51:00,880 --> 00:50:56,840 up to me later and he said you know by 839 00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:00,890 day I do plasma physics the physics of 840 00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:03,830 superheated gases he said to me but 841 00:51:10,979 --> 00:51:07,190 privately I'm doing some experiments and 842 00:51:14,979 --> 00:51:10,989 telepathy I take that for me 843 00:51:16,809 --> 00:51:14,989 and my son it was a eight years old or 844 00:51:20,409 --> 00:51:16,819 something like that is in another room 845 00:51:24,189 --> 00:51:20,419 and my son has to guess whether it's 846 00:51:29,049 --> 00:51:24,199 heads or tails and he said my son is 847 00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:29,059 getting 80% correct yes I I would never 848 00:51:35,049 --> 00:51:31,689 tell this to any of my colleagues you 849 00:51:38,859 --> 00:51:35,059 know they they would think I've just 850 00:51:42,009 --> 00:51:38,869 gone completely not and it's such a 851 00:51:46,539 --> 00:51:42,019 shame because we're missing out on this 852 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:46,549 aspect of me are there are no absolutely 853 00:51:56,439 --> 00:51:51,410 look at me like I feel safe and talking 854 00:51:58,599 --> 00:51:56,449 to you about it you know so I as I 855 00:52:01,839 --> 00:51:58,609 travel around the world it's one of the 856 00:52:03,939 --> 00:52:01,849 things that I see that sometimes you 857 00:52:06,959 --> 00:52:03,949 know you may be looking at somebody a 858 00:52:09,819 --> 00:52:06,969 scientist and think they're completely 859 00:52:12,849 --> 00:52:09,829 Orthodox in their views but if you get 860 00:52:17,739 --> 00:52:12,859 to know them and they open up to you 861 00:52:21,189 --> 00:52:17,749 fine they accept some of these things I 862 00:52:25,779 --> 00:52:21,199 mean another time I got invited to speak 863 00:52:28,419 --> 00:52:25,789 at the geology department of a major 864 00:52:31,630 --> 00:52:28,429 university in the United States there's 865 00:52:33,699 --> 00:52:31,640 a professor of geology there he invited 866 00:52:38,769 --> 00:52:33,709 me to come and talk about my book 867 00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,779 forbidden archeology and I did it you 868 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:40,880 know I you know I spoke in the geology 869 00:52:46,779 --> 00:52:43,130 department there to the professors of 870 00:52:49,899 --> 00:52:46,789 geology and the graduate students and I 871 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:49,909 was just curious you know I asked this 872 00:52:54,999 --> 00:52:52,880 man why did you invite me I mean II to 873 00:52:58,359 --> 00:52:55,009 eat you look at the guy young as a full 874 00:53:01,899 --> 00:52:58,369 professor of geology at a in the science 875 00:53:05,819 --> 00:53:01,909 department of a major university he's 876 00:53:09,549 --> 00:53:05,829 publishing in the mainstream scientific 877 00:53:14,380 --> 00:53:09,559 journals he's authoring textbooks yeah 878 00:53:16,749 --> 00:53:14,390 why did he invite you yeah should your 879 00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:16,759 competition but he said I heard you on 880 00:53:25,230 --> 00:53:20,390 coast to coast which is what shows 881 00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:29,920 you can hear my god completely Orthodox 882 00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:33,070 but late at night you know he's 883 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:38,720 listening to a show like yours there are 884 00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:42,170 so many others and he he's getting 885 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:47,510 fascinated by it so he invited me to his 886 00:53:53,770 --> 00:53:49,490 house and we were studying having dinner 887 00:53:56,110 --> 00:53:53,780 heaven his wife and me and she's also at 888 00:53:59,770 --> 00:53:56,120 the University and then they start 889 00:54:03,430 --> 00:53:59,780 telling me about a UFO experience that 890 00:54:08,830 --> 00:54:03,440 they had where a sub kind of strange 891 00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:08,840 craft came over their house you know 892 00:54:17,350 --> 00:54:10,750 they live on the outskirts of the town 893 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:17,360 and you know sometimes that's what I 894 00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:21,770 experience now you only like that who if 895 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:24,400 you just saw them you've never yeah 896 00:54:29,290 --> 00:54:27,170 you'd never think it but here there take 897 00:54:31,390 --> 00:54:29,300 you by surprise but obviously they feel 898 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:31,400 safe with you and they share these 899 00:54:37,570 --> 00:54:33,970 experiences now I live for the day 900 00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:37,580 Michael when we can share these 901 00:54:44,860 --> 00:54:40,880 experiences in public without fear of 902 00:54:47,830 --> 00:54:44,870 being made fun of or put down or killed 903 00:54:50,110 --> 00:54:47,840 by the government or whatever I mean it 904 00:54:57,070 --> 00:54:50,120 was the other Sebastian going to happen 905 00:54:59,860 --> 00:54:57,080 because a sign you know it's like it 906 00:55:02,890 --> 00:54:59,870 shows that even within in the 907 00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:02,900 educational and scientific establishment 908 00:55:10,350 --> 00:55:05,270 there are people who are officially 909 00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:10,360 going along with things but who inside 910 00:55:20,290 --> 00:55:14,390 have different ideas and they share them 911 00:55:23,950 --> 00:55:20,300 with others just very very carefully now 912 00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:23,960 to me that is a sign that eventually 913 00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:26,900 things have to change when you've got 914 00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:28,390 people who are 915 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:32,700 part of the establishment having 916 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:36,730 harboring different kinds of ideas and 917 00:55:43,739 --> 00:55:40,450 kind of sharing them secretly with each 918 00:55:46,229 --> 00:55:43,749 other and with people that they trust I 919 00:55:49,259 --> 00:55:46,239 think eventually that's going to break 920 00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:49,269 out into the open and what to speak 921 00:55:56,970 --> 00:55:52,900 about that most people among the general 922 00:55:59,519 --> 00:55:56,980 public according to Gallup surveys 923 00:56:03,509 --> 00:55:59,529 claimed to have had paranormal 924 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:03,519 experiences don't accept the mainstream 925 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:06,880 scientific theories about human origins 926 00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,450 you know it's been shown that so to me 927 00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:13,119 these are all positive signs that 928 00:56:21,569 --> 00:56:17,440 despite the fact that people are going 929 00:56:23,579 --> 00:56:21,579 into these educational institutions that 930 00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:23,589 are controlled completely by the 931 00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:25,660 mainstream scientists and they're 932 00:56:34,609 --> 00:56:28,920 leaving them not having been convinced 933 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:34,619 and the fact that even within the 934 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:38,410 mainstream scientific circles there are 935 00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:43,210 people who have other ideas and even 936 00:56:49,339 --> 00:56:45,190 secretly I think these are all signs 937 00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:49,349 that eventually there is going to be a 938 00:56:57,630 --> 00:56:53,230 paradigm shift there's going to be some 939 00:57:00,660 --> 00:56:57,640 tipping point where it all adds up to a 940 00:57:03,630 --> 00:57:00,670 quick shift that's a great thing I mean 941 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:03,640 we really really hope for that because 942 00:57:09,989 --> 00:57:07,390 it makes all of this so much easier I 943 00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:09,999 mean so much easier to talk about this 944 00:57:14,670 --> 00:57:11,950 you know part of the problem that we 945 00:57:18,269 --> 00:57:14,680 have encountered on the show when people 946 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:18,279 talk about seeing Bigfoot or seeing dog 947 00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:20,730 man or seeing any of these other 948 00:57:26,190 --> 00:57:24,400 creatures is they feel so isolated if 949 00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,200 they can only talk about it here on the 950 00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:28,480 show like you mentioned tell a few 951 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:31,480 trusted people but at the same time what 952 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:34,480 if dog man is kind of dangerous we're 953 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:37,210 definitely at a disadvantage if we don't 954 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:39,849 accept that this person did in fact see 955 00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:41,290 something and 956 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:44,260 an experience with a creature of being 957 00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:45,490 whatever you want to call them then 958 00:57:51,810 --> 00:57:48,520 might in fact be threatening so we have 959 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:51,820 to again understand there are things out 960 00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:54,370 there maybe we don't want to accept that 961 00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:56,200 they're there because we get a little 962 00:58:01,590 --> 00:57:58,930 frightened but they're there people have 963 00:58:04,110 --> 00:58:01,600 seen them and not just once this has 964 00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:04,120 happened two centuries the people of my 965 00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:07,390 appointments so it would be wonderful to 966 00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:10,270 accept it and then let's have another 967 00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:12,070 discussion because once it's accepted 968 00:58:16,290 --> 00:58:13,900 it's a totally different discussion 969 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:16,300 isn't it no can you imagine what you can 970 00:58:24,380 --> 00:58:19,530 build down then yeah exactly this 971 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:24,390 tremendous I think if if the 972 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:27,330 institutions the social political 973 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:30,610 financial institutions are going to 974 00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:32,290 change the first thing that has to 975 00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:36,190 change is our understanding of who we 976 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:40,510 are and where we are and once that 977 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:43,510 happens that it becomes possible to make 978 00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:49,770 other kinds of social political economic 979 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:52,840 arrangements but the first step has to 980 00:58:58,590 --> 00:58:55,650 be some change and fundamental ideas 981 00:59:01,170 --> 00:58:58,600 about who we are and where we are and 982 00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:01,180 now do you see that happening kind of as 983 00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:03,670 a shift in consciousness through our 984 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:05,350 population because we know it's not 985 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:07,450 going to come from our institutions from 986 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:10,330 our governments and and places where 987 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:13,270 there are strongholds of the past that 988 00:59:18,570 --> 00:59:15,970 they were so addicted to wanting us to 989 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:18,580 believe the past as they see it so do 990 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:20,610 you see it more like consciousness 991 00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:23,890 shifting an agenda and hundreds of 992 00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,140 thousands or millions of people is that 993 00:59:30,330 --> 00:59:28,720 where it's going to come from no that's 994 00:59:33,210 --> 00:59:30,340 already happening 995 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:33,220 I mean surveys have shown you know most 996 00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:36,370 people in the United States don't accept 997 00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:40,300 that we evolved from apes I mean they 998 00:59:45,330 --> 00:59:42,880 may have some other ideas that I don't 999 00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:45,340 necessarily agree with but at least 1000 00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:48,100 they're not accepting the mainstream 1001 00:59:56,370 --> 00:59:50,860 scientific ideas about these things 1002 00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:56,380 I think at least 20 to 25 percent of the 1003 01:00:02,570 --> 00:59:58,930 American people claim to believe in 1004 01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:02,580 reincarnation and have had out-of-body 1005 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:05,800 experiences and things like that so I 1006 01:00:14,190 --> 01:00:09,250 think the general public is is they're 1007 01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:14,200 all waking up just a question about it 1008 01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:15,870 will ya 1009 01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:18,520 institutions are going to yeah they'll 1010 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:21,190 have to catch up to the rest of us right 1011 01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:24,250 just like you know like communism you 1012 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:25,840 know some people thought it was going to 1013 01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:27,970 be there forever and right up to the 1014 01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:32,950 last moment they were the people were 1015 01:00:40,980 --> 01:00:37,750 who were imposing that system continue 1016 01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:40,990 to impose it even though the people had 1017 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:43,830 changed and even members of their own 1018 01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:48,010 own leadership group some different 1019 01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:51,310 ideas exciting it's exciting to be a 1020 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:53,230 part of change and Michael you are at 1021 01:00:58,260 --> 01:00:55,450 the forefront of it and we thank you so 1022 01:01:00,240 --> 01:00:58,270 much for coming on the show tonight and 1023 01:01:02,670 --> 01:01:00,250 for sharing your work with us everybody 1024 01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:02,680 be sure to go to Michael's website get 1025 01:01:09,930 --> 01:01:05,680 his books em cremeux comm that's his 1026 01:01:13,410 --> 01:01:09,940 website or go to amazon.com don't miss 1027 01:01:15,810 --> 01:01:13,420 out this is a big consciousness shift be 1028 01:01:18,780 --> 01:01:15,820 a part of it and we'll be back next week 1029 01:01:20,820 --> 01:01:18,790 with scale our energy Tom Palladino 1030 01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:20,830 we're going to find out what scale our 1031 01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:23,860 can change for you be sure to tune in 1032 01:01:29,790 --> 01:01:27,550 next week and we will see you on the 1033 01:01:31,630 --> 01:01:29,800 blue highway good night everybody